tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post1811731517065501410..comments2023-10-30T08:04:07.321-06:00Comments on Demonpuppy's Wicked Awesome Art Blog: This Sunday is Nuts!Bretthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12168403050889835504noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-46066298641264300122011-07-21T20:11:53.833-06:002011-07-21T20:11:53.833-06:00If you just saw a skinny dude w/ a beard walking d...<i>If you just saw a skinny dude w/ a beard walking down the street, would you easily buy into the fact he's God's Son?</i><br /><br />No I'd probably call the cops and tell them Charles Manson somehow got lose and they need to come pick him up.<br /><br /><i>His Son was hated. Tortured. Killed. Is that easy for ANY dad?</i><br /><br />It is when you consider that after the relatively short amount of suffering he gets to go and become one(creepy)with his father again.<br />Isn't that the Christian way?short period of pain and suffering on earth is nothing when compared with an eternity of heaven?Fatboy73https://www.blogger.com/profile/04770482415512154108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-81510219806019965532011-07-21T13:15:48.190-06:002011-07-21T13:15:48.190-06:00And again shinobi100, that is YOUR interpretation....And again shinobi100, that is YOUR interpretation. Others read it differently. You are assuming of course that you are reading it right;) (I'm not saying it either way, just showing you that not all sects read it as you do, that doesn't mean you're wrong and they are right, or the inverse.)<br /><br />Yeah and dividing people is ALWAYS the way to peace, same thing as today;)<br /><br />So, because you don't like that part of the bible it's a hallucination? Why is that any different then the creation story? Or Sodom and Gomorrah? Or the resurrection of Christ and Lazarus? If one parts fantasy then why not all of it? <br /><br />Best,<br /><br />BrettBretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12168403050889835504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-14717771322527073432011-07-21T13:09:14.214-06:002011-07-21T13:09:14.214-06:00Show me a point from the Bible where you wouldnt c...Show me a point from the Bible where you wouldnt call him Buddy Christ? He helped anyone who asked. He associated himself w/ the most hated an vile people. He gave away everything he had. <br /><br />Only 2 times I recall Him getting pissed. 1.) when people were selling jewelry an stuff inside His Dad's house (the temple), He knocked over their booths an scolded em. <br /><br />2.) the night b4 He died He asked his apostles to stay awake for a couple hours while He went to pray. He came back an they were all asleep. He got pissed. When you know you're going to be tortured an killed, it's a lil bit stressful. <br /><br />The God that you hate, sent his Son, to help ALL of humanity. His Son was hated. Tortured. Killed. Is that easy for ANY dad? All to keep us schmucks who read comics and point telescopes at our 16 yr. old high school cheerleader neighbors window from suffering an eternity of fire and carrot top jokes.shinobi100https://www.blogger.com/profile/00498842788355596605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-23199640619702712262011-07-21T12:57:50.675-06:002011-07-21T12:57:50.675-06:00Again, with the fire quote, it's being taken o...Again, with the fire quote, it's being taken out of context. Jesus never lit anyone on fire, never juggled it, never ate it. <br /><br />The point is the same as the sword quote. What Jesus had to say wasn't easy. He was the Messiah, and the only way to God was through Him. If you just saw a skinny dude w/ a beard walking down the street, would you easily buy into the fact he's God's Son? <br /><br />Jesus divided people b/c of what He taught. Some believe in Him, some don't. Even diff. beliefs within the same family. You'll find the same thing today. <br /><br />As for Armaggedon...epic movie. As for that part of the bible. I have no idea. It was based on somebodys vision or hallucination or something. Simple fact is that if Jesus does come back dual wielding scythes or M-16s w/ a grenade launcher attachments, He won't obliterate anyone who believes in Him. I'd say that's pretty fair. He only gave us a couple thousand years advanced notice<br /><br /><br />D'u find any humor in the clip?shinobi100https://www.blogger.com/profile/00498842788355596605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-47847011718472677272011-07-21T11:01:00.260-06:002011-07-21T11:01:00.260-06:00dhr,
It's possible I didn't use the corre...dhr,<br /><br />It's possible I didn't use the correct search phrase. I did check the guys wiki pages and found nothing about it.<br /><br />Of course I would need a translation, I don't speak Italian, and ancient Italian at that.<br /><br />I fond your comment amusing as hell as what you call the Marvel of the Universe I call mythology. I'd much rather learn about the actual universe and how it works, from Dark matter to string theory.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />BrettBretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12168403050889835504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-25245755227536700322011-07-21T10:46:41.484-06:002011-07-21T10:46:41.484-06:00I had already posted something about it in a coupl...I had already posted something about it in a couple of websites (not my own) some months ago. How could the god Techno-Google miss it?<br /><br />Anyway the complete text can be now "seen" at:<br /><br />http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n628/Dariodhr/Bonaventura.jpg<br /><br />from: "De reductione artium ad theologiam" #12<br /><br />If it seems pointless to you, it will be a sad thing. Not - absolutely - because I was trying to "convert" you (to what, incidentally?), but because I tried to have you, a TT-etc. artist, enjoy the unexpected Marvels of this Universe. I have a whole collection of such "Fortean" texts and facts.<br /><br />A translation, if needed, can be requested by private email (dario.rivarossa at gmail.com)ilTassista Marinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15699489061218827092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-34651534228931280042011-07-21T10:01:50.383-06:002011-07-21T10:01:50.383-06:00dhr,
Then SHOW ME.
Best,
Brettdhr,<br /><br />Then SHOW ME. <br /><br />Best,<br /><br />BrettBretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12168403050889835504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-40095379324958186252011-07-21T09:59:47.840-06:002011-07-21T09:59:47.840-06:00>Bonaventure? I'm beginning to think it doe...>Bonaventure? I'm beginning to think it doesn't exist and it was just a story being passed around.<br /><br />"I never lie -- except when I sleep."<br /><br />___Dogin<br /><br />(that sounds like a Buddhist master, but it is just the current word verification)ilTassista Marinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15699489061218827092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-40045005265334263462011-07-21T09:49:02.902-06:002011-07-21T09:49:02.902-06:00dhr,
No I don't. I have a bunch of evidence t...dhr,<br /><br />No I don't. I have a bunch of evidence that supports the surpression of science during the middle ages. The flat earthers of the 19th century confirm this. If religion is in charge, they will warp and ignore science if it contradicts their book. We just lucked out that Martin Luther split the church, causing it to loose power.<br /><br />If he met them in hell then it wasn't real,, just a story. But I'm sure there were plenty of gay people back then. That proves nothing. <br /><br />And again, were is the evidence for Bonaventure? I'm beginning to think it doesn't exist and it was just a story being passed around.<br /><br />shinobi100,<br /><br />In the context that Jesus comes and battles Satan in the end times, he is a warrior, I'm sure a sword is preferred to fish. Please note, that this is YOUR interpretation, others don't agree with you (I honestly don't care either way.) This is not the only time Jesus makes claims of aggression:<br /><br />"I have come to cast fire upon the Earth; and how I wish it were already kindled! 50 But I have a baptism* to undergo, and how distressed I am until it is accomplished! 51 Do you suppose that I came to grant peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division; 52 for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three. 53 They will be divided, father* against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law. (Luke 12:49-53)"<br /><br />I will deny Jesus existed until I get some actual evidence for him. Right now, there isn't very much. And since Jesus was a fairly common name (this from religious scholars) it would need to be something specific. Remember everything about him was written down 20 to 70 years after his death... People didn't live long back then so it's more than likely most of this is second or even third hand accounts... if they actually accounts at all. <br /><br />Sure the Buddy Christ seems cool, but he still advocates torcher, exclusion and his father's a dick;)<br /><br />chemical processes:<br /><br />Of WHOM do you speak? And this is sort of an organic thing, misspellings and misuses will always happen. Spell check doesn't catch everything. No need for the grammar police if you can understand what's being said;)<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />BrettBretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12168403050889835504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-66895718931769099302011-07-21T09:15:58.455-06:002011-07-21T09:15:58.455-06:00on a different note, you may [or not, whichever yo...on a different note, you may [or not, whichever you'd like] want to change some of those where's to were's.<br />:)chemical processeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09035401389539780674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-26875781707451685492011-07-21T03:30:17.666-06:002011-07-21T03:30:17.666-06:00B.B.,
In reference to the quote: "I come not...B.B.,<br /><br />In reference to the quote: "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword"...Most any quote taken out of context won't hold its true meaning. Like if you told people I said "I like to lick my own butthole" without telling them that I preceded that by saying "I wonder if my dog thinks to himself:" <br /><br />Jesus never once picked up a weapon. He never once struck someone. He even held back his followers from attacking the soldiers who had come to arrest him.<br /><br />Jesus came to bring a sword the same way John Lennon brought a sword: by upsetting the status quo. Except instead of trying to overthrow all the gov'ts of the world w/ a piano, J.C. contradicted almost all of the religious leaders of the day. <br /><br />Absolutely no shame in following Jesus. Even if you don't consider him the Messiah, you can't deny He is the coolest hombre who ever roamed the Earth. The round or flat version of it. My favorite story about Jesus is when some religious elites came to try to trick him into saying something illegal so they could have him arrested or killed. <br /><br />So Jesus was just chilling, kneeling down and drawing in the sand (this was pre-internet remember). The elites come up to him with a prostitute and said "the law says this girl deserves to be stoned, what say you Jesus of Nazareth?" (i'm paraphrasing). Jesus looked at the girl, thought for a second, then said "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone." And then Jesus went back to drawing in the sand. The old religious farts grumbled to each other for a bit then walked out, leaving the prostitute. <br /><br />Jesus looked up at the girl. He didn't scold her in a moment of shame, he just told her he didn't condemn her and said "go, and sin no more." D-D-DAM!!! Anyone doubting why J.C. is the one man I'll kneel before?<br /><br />Think this scene sums up our convo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zuw8_m0MHc&NR=1shinobi100https://www.blogger.com/profile/00498842788355596605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-82465613619472304712011-07-21T00:10:15.637-06:002011-07-21T00:10:15.637-06:00Excuse me, one last P.S.
It's true, Dante met...Excuse me, one last P.S.<br /><br />It's true, Dante met his homosex friends in "hell," but - as his son Jacopo Alighieri explained - Dante's hell, purgatory and heaven were not places in afterlife at all. They were just expedients to show the different human conditions. In fact, after meeting them in so-called "hell," Dante simply talks to them about culture and politics, and ends by saying that he will make their names be honored in future times also. And it has been so!<br /><br />[ Other homosexual people were seen by him in purgatory: those ones, of course, were already destined to heaven. ]ilTassista Marinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15699489061218827092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-92092203405393384862011-07-21T00:00:41.586-06:002011-07-21T00:00:41.586-06:00>Even today if the Evangelicals would have thei...>Even today if the Evangelicals would have their way...<br /><br />Dear Brett <br /><br />so, as it could be suspected from the beginning: THIS is the problem. When you read "Medieval European culture (literature, philosophy, cosmology, etc.)" you have "current American Evangelicals" in your mind. Dinosaur-killing Flood. Flatland. Gays going "to hell"... <br /><br />Btw, did you know that Dante had many homosexual friends? But, one writes "Dante," you read "Dubya" :-)<br /><br />In sum. You are absolutely right in cringing in front of those dudes, but let me tell you that the two categories have NOTHING to do with each other (except a vague reference to "the Gospel," which is an umbrella concept in which everybody saw and sees what he/she likes best).<br /><br />'Believe' me.<br /><br />And, excuse me if I made you lose a lot of time, well, even lose patience, on this issue. But I will rather pay attention to you art from now on.<br /><br />Finally, the unmissable phishing, the saddest phenomenon in Human History: hope you will be visiting my blog some day :-)ilTassista Marinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15699489061218827092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-6300674818498705832011-07-20T17:09:36.485-06:002011-07-20T17:09:36.485-06:00Well a reference would be nice so I can see what t...Well a reference would be nice so I can see what the context is. I've not heard of that before so I'd like to know if it's actually true, a myth or a misread.<br /><br /> <br /><br />That's in the US, you seem to forget about the European witch burnings:<br /><br />http://www.gendercide.org/case_witchhunts.html<br /><br />Since that's at the end of the 'dark ages' and in Europe, a much better match than something in the US, also caused by religious ferver.<br /><br /><br /><br />Actually it's from the 19th century. Not Hollywood. Interesting how some thing still prevail in the modern times. But while this isn't actually a point now, what about Galileo? The Church clearly had Europe in the palm of it's hand was was controlling/repressing science even after the Dark ages... they just couldn't burn them anymore. <br /><br />Even today if the Evangelicals would have their way we would be plunged into a new dark age for science. Bush tried it a few years ago, luckily Europe stepped up.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />BrettBretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12168403050889835504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-79681775245794988522011-07-20T11:29:14.604-06:002011-07-20T11:29:14.604-06:00>I could find nothing on the web
Thanks for se...>I could find nothing on the web<br /><br />Thanks for searching, though. <br /><br />>16th century was not part of the dark ages.<br /><br />Most witches were burnt in THAT period, non during the Middle Ages; or even later, see Salem.<br /><br /><br />>the Flat Earth idea is from those times<br /><br />This, honestly, is complete nonsense, without any ground -- except, I fear, some Hollywood flick and comic cartoon (which was supposed to be "comic," anyway).ilTassista Marinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15699489061218827092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-11156210939258555222011-07-20T09:09:49.066-06:002011-07-20T09:09:49.066-06:00dhr,
Ok, I'll need references for St. Bonaven...dhr,<br /><br />Ok, I'll need references for St. Bonaventure. I could find nothing on the web but his theological stuff. If he had predicted that, I would have thought it would be all over the web. And that's ONE guy, and everything I read makes no mention of actual science. <br /><br />Technology is science. There were no improvements in medicine, natural history, astronomy, the Flat Earth idea is from those times, even though the Egyptians proved the Earth round in 2000BCE. That's backwards.<br /><br />16th century was not part of the dark ages. Darwin was not the first person to come up with the idea of natural selection, he just put it all together and published it. Darwin'd grandfather had a similar idea. It had been floating around academia for a bit. <br /><br />'Thinkers' are not scientists. Theology and philosophy are not sciences, as St. Bonaventure was a doctor of those things maybe that's what's confusing you?<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />BrettBretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12168403050889835504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-14710068772876986482011-07-20T01:54:47.107-06:002011-07-20T01:54:47.107-06:00Dante described a hologram.
The most-Catholic poet...Dante <i>described</i> a hologram.<br />The most-Catholic poet Torquato Tasso, late 16th century, anticipated Darwin.<br /><br />Salvador Dali, who loved Science even more than Art, said that we are just now rediscovering what Medieval and Renaissance thinkers already understood.ilTassista Marinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15699489061218827092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-16693916272890972542011-07-19T15:21:01.078-06:002011-07-19T15:21:01.078-06:00An example: St Bonaventura (a Franciscan theologia...An example: St Bonaventura (a Franciscan theologian, 13th century) forecasted computers and cyborgs.ilTassista Marinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15699489061218827092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-29574794182393046182011-07-19T15:19:46.308-06:002011-07-19T15:19:46.308-06:00>dhr,... Do you know science understanding went...>dhr,... Do you know science understanding went BACKWARDS during those times?<br /><br />Not at all.<br />Technology did.<br />The problem is, we think that Technology "is" Science. Whereas T. often promotes ignorance.ilTassista Marinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15699489061218827092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-13170423320820466982011-07-19T15:18:52.188-06:002011-07-19T15:18:52.188-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.ilTassista Marinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15699489061218827092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-46673624311356929472011-07-17T20:15:06.534-06:002011-07-17T20:15:06.534-06:00Shinobi100,
I guess he was talking about lollypop...Shinobi100,<br /><br />I guess he was talking about lollypops or rainbows here then:<br /><br />"I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" (Gospel of Matthew 10:34)<br /><br />I'm ALL for peace, unfortunately humans don't do that well. <br /><br />A man wouldn't convince me, some solid evidence would. But I still wouldn't follow even then. A higher being would not want other to worship it. Nor would a higher being deem a football game worthy of his miracles but earthquakes, planes being flown into building, flooding, ect clearly not the case. <br /><br />She is not a spider... or at least not to my knowledge. Scott has a habit of changing things and not telling me. Originally her outfit was sort of organic tech... not sure now.<br /><br />Just so you know, what happens in these posts stays here. We can disagree and 'fight' but in the others posts it's relaxed and friendly. I've been going at it with Steve for over 10 years. But I still work with him and talk to him on the phone when I get some free time:)<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />BrettBretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12168403050889835504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-41721240245364758542011-07-17T13:02:58.103-06:002011-07-17T13:02:58.103-06:00OK, 150% last post. GUARANTEED. Let's end this...OK, 150% last post. GUARANTEED. Let's end this discussion as friends. I respect your views. I like your art. You don't believe in God b/c you have no proof. My proof is not very scientific. Thus, it would take a better man than me to convince you. <br /><br />What is up w/ the spider chick? Is she new for this series? And is she a spider??<br /><br />Btw, gracias for giving Yahweh a capital Y. If you see a burning bush, don't try to put it out...shinobi100https://www.blogger.com/profile/00498842788355596605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-70705312322179573722011-07-17T12:43:05.317-06:002011-07-17T12:43:05.317-06:00You got me there. Hebrews are Old Testament. Jes...You got me there. Hebrews are Old Testament. Jesus is New Testament. I only consider the gospels 100% in continuity. Jesus NEVER spoke of violence.<br /><br />I made the army girl fall in love w/ me. Now THAT might get her killed. But I do plan on marrying her if she gets back here in one piece. Us pacifists need bodyguards ya knowshinobi100https://www.blogger.com/profile/00498842788355596605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-74149332618049548022011-07-17T12:24:50.733-06:002011-07-17T12:24:50.733-06:00The pope and priests and bishops are all products ...The pope and priests and bishops are all products of money and politics. Jesus always talked about how corrupt religious people are. Christianity to me, means following Christ's example. Which is how I try to roll. Aside from the attire. I couldn't work a tunic.shinobi100https://www.blogger.com/profile/00498842788355596605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-68327275018045829.post-82932977901339087642011-07-17T12:22:15.237-06:002011-07-17T12:22:15.237-06:00WOW.
OK, That girl, god said not to MURDER, very ...WOW.<br /><br />OK, That girl, god said not to MURDER, very different. And guilt tripping her might get HER killed. She's doing her JOB. And you god had the Hebrews killing all the time. <br /><br />Just wow.Bretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12168403050889835504noreply@blogger.com