It's a whole funny (well, I think it's funny) comic on us mean, arrogant Atheists! It explains why we do what we do, in a lighthearted way. I'm sure Steve will have a problem with it, but that doesn't mean others won't enjoy it.:)
You know I'm not sure if I ever said this, but if you have any questions that I might be able to answer about us mean Atheists just shout them out in the comments and I'll try to answer them. Just keep in mind I can only really tell you my conversion or why I am an Atheist.
On a side note, I can't wait till Easter! The Catholics here are nuts, it's like the only time they can eat fish is on the Fridays durring Lent! Cars were one the street at the McDonalds! It's McDonalds people, not KFC!
Best!
Brett
I can't wait till easter either.
ReplyDeleteEaster Eggs. Lashings of chocolate, and nobody judging you if you make a glutton of yourself, rolling around in a chocolate high while suffering from a borderline diabetic coma. Only Halloween is as much fun.
I don't have any questions about atheism. Not that I don't enjoy reading others opinions, just that I think everyone is an individual, and one's reason for either non-believing, or believing is often about as interesting as asking why people enjoyed the Star Wars Prequels. I don't care, it's your beliefs, and as long as you don't go crazy promoting it, then each to their own. Those Star War prequel guys are crazy...;)
Btw, the comic was dead on. I admit I am not a closed minded person. USed to be, but thankfully saw the light. But I do meet far too many folks who are highly closed minded when it comes to others of certain sexualities or beliefs. IT is so sad that we canno bypass that, but as long as the media, and others, propagate a world of fear, while negating the actual issues, then we are screwed.
Ah Easter! That means two things to me. Jelly beans and (living in a heavily Polish community) that beloved 500 calorie gut bomb...The Pączki!(pronounced poonschki) Words cannot describe how much I love these fat laden, sugar encrusted beauties
ReplyDeleteM.O.R.
ReplyDeleteLOL! That is too funny! And I hated the Star Wars prequels;P
Nope you are definitely not closed minded, your beliefs and ideas seem to be changing based on new information! That's all I could ever want from anyone!
I think the republicans hear are destroying themselves before our eyes. It's good cause hopefully we'll get a new party, just not one based in the 1950's!
Chris,
You couldn't be more wrong;P CADBURY EGGS are the best!!!!!
Best,
Brett
I have to share this:
ReplyDeletehttp://alldeadmormonsarenowgay.com/
You can now convert Mormons to Homosexuals! It's great fun. Payback is a bitch!
Best,
Brett
You know Brett, to this day I have never eaten a Cadbury Egg. As child I was horrified by these monstrosities, thinking someone put an actual raw egg inside of a chocolate shell. Now even knowing better, I still can't get passed the image in my head of someone slurping down a chocolatey, slimy, runny, RAW egg. Peeps on the other hand are just evil...like Dark lord of the Sith evil. (Shudder)
ReplyDeleteChris,
ReplyDeleteThey are the BOMB! Put them int he fridge, that way they aren't runny;P
Alright...I'll try em...but I'm still skeptical. ;)
ReplyDeleteCAdbury's creme eggs are as close to nirvana as anyone can ever get, all wrapped in chocolate and sugar.
ReplyDeleteAnd with that, there is the only conversion I will ever try on anyone or any thing. Cadbury's creme eggs...possibly a new religion? ;)
And honestly, who wouldn't worship Cadbury's and all their chocoloatey goodness.
I know I am gonna get called sexist, but the majority of the congregation would be women...;)
Ya know, it was around the time I was 20 or so that I went from a total homophobe, to a complete liberal, open minded individual. I can even pin point the exact moment I saw the light, like noticing a beautiful woman, and then seeing their inner beauty is even more stunning than their outer beauty.
Anyway, I was scrolling through comics on Daryl Cagle's website, and I came across one that depicted the sinister bible basher, the Fred Phelps like character that nearly all of us imagine, in our minds when we think bible bashing. It showed the stereotypical bible basher, holding up a newspaper with all of these horrible events like war and famine, and this tiny article about gay marriage proclaiming "Vows of love and respect exchanged in same sex ceremony" whilst the bible basher procalims 'We cannot allow our children to be exposed to this!!!". To this day, I don't know why that cartoon spoke to me far more than anything else I read had done, or other people's opinions, but it hit me like a ton of bricks, and in that moment, I went from homo phobe, to right minded individual. That is when I went looking for answers as to whether the bible really hated homosexuals, and if they were an anomaly within nature. I had always felt that both the bible and evolution backed up my theory that homosexuality was wrong. It's crazy to think of all the rubbish I spouted in my past homophobic life. It's also funny how much one wishes to know about when their mind is no longer closed.
Capybara and beaver are considered fish by the Vatican. In Venezuela, they eat capybara during Lent.
ReplyDeleteNice I just find another Atheist i'm not alone(w/my family of course)btw its HorokyuStarling from Twitter.
ReplyDeleteCADBURY EGGS are from the devil!
ReplyDeleteSorry just had to give the knee-jerk anti-Christian folks something to play with.
Absolutely hate Cadbury Eggs. We were not allowed to have them as kids because of the high sugar content. So as an act of rebellion I bought one with my paper route money and ate it to spite my parents. Blech! You know what, way too much sugar! They make my fillings hurt just thinking about them. Of course my parents now buy them for my kids, not sure what the point of the story is.
Now Peeps, there is a fun Easter tradition! They are too sweet for me as well but I love to let them melt in my coffee. Die little pink bunnies, burn you little yellow chickies haha.
So back to the cartoon, it seems to be saying religious folks have not earned the respect of others and so it is okay to treat them as less than human. Sort of, “If you don’t agree with me then I can treat you as poorly as I like.” Of course that is nothing new, that is human nature, always evil and to be rejected if you see atheists or religious folks practicing mistreatment of others. It also seems to repeat Brett’s assertion of they are undeserving of respect because they have not been supported by evidence. This is twice now I have heard this comment as making it okay to not practice common decency toward people. Is this a common central practice of atheists? Do they ridicule other atheists if they are unable to prove God does not exist?
M.O.R. a bit curious did you take your new openness to its logical conclusion, did you walk away from the cartoon thinking it was wrong to disagree with homosexuality but also that you should have no strong opinion toward anything including: death, war, hunger, and disease? Or did you just slightly modify your beliefs, and still hold that some things were still absolutely wrong and some were absolutely right, just now instead of saying homosexuality was wrong you believe intolerance of homosexuality as being absolutely wrong?
Steve,
ReplyDeleteOnce again you have so completely soared over the point, you're in the stratosphere. There is no central practice for atheists! Some Atheists may be more than happy to treat others as less than human, and I have the same contempt for those actions no matter who perpetrates them. The regulars over at Pharyngula go way too far for me sometimes and seem to make personal attacks instead of simply discrediting or correcting bad or unsubstantiated ideas. Attack, discredit, and if a blatantly ignorant idea is persistently asserted then ridicule that belief or idea. That can still be done though without personal attacks on the individual.
The cartoon is saying that your beliefs don't deserve respect just because you demand that they do.
Anyone who wishes can make fun of my disbelief. I don't take it as a personal attack on me because I am so much more than my disbelief in Gods and the supernatural. Whereas I feel Christians especially, are so wrapped up in their beliefs that they cannot separate themselves from those beliefs. Attack on my spiritual beliefs = personal attack on me and I completely blame the religion itself. How else is someone supposed to react when from the time you can understand, you are told your worth as a human being is intrinsically nothing. That you were born a vile, evil, sinful creature and the only way to redeem yourself and be worth anything is to fully accept the mercy of a divine being. To be transformed by that being into something not automatically deserving of death and punishment.
Those ideas and beliefs are worthy of all ridicule, hate and bile humanity has ever ever heaped upon them.
The point of accepting Homosexuality Steve is that Homosexuality is a perfectly NATURAL trait of sexuality in Humans and many other species. Homosexuality is not a belief. Someone doesn't just decide one day "Hey I think I'll learn to be gay" If that were so then you would have no problem just deciding you were sexually attracted to men...or sheep...or dead things. But hey if you have the ability to make yourself aroused by anything you put your mind to, then you have definitely evolved to a new level and should submit yourself for scientific study. :D
See Steve, this is why we will never agree. PEEPS! If ever there was evidence for Satan it would be peeps. Vile, gross little things! ABOMINATIONS, they must be cast out!
ReplyDeleteAnd Chris is right, you missed the point. The points is that for hundreds if not a thousand and some change, your religion was just given reverence. People weren't given a choice. Now that they are it's being examined and for some it's not worthy of anything like praise. It's not a person (unless you want to call it a corporation) os the ideas behind it and the religion itself don't automatically deserve respect. And for soem of that crazy stuff it should be made fun of. All them animals on a boat for that long? Comeon! Moses getting the 10 commandments from God after sitting on a mountain for what 40 days?! Comeon! It's silly.
And it's funny how you demand we practice 'common decency' yet your religion pisses all over gays, women and the rights of others outside of your religion... Why should we be nice to you when you are horrible to us? I have said it before, respect is earned. And religion has yet to earn it, they've taken it and demanded it, but they haven't earned it.
Best,
Brett
Godless and Free are you Fatboy?
ReplyDeleteAnyways I asked, “ {is) it okay to not practice common decency toward people? Is this a common central practice of atheists?”
Godless you answered it was not a central belief. Me asking in the first place can hardly be called “soaring over the point into the stratosphere.” I asked a question you answered it. That is communication. Sorry you felt the need to try to get a minor jab in, but maybe it was a misunderstanding about how best to respond to a question. There is a way to disagree without being overly disagreeable; I am glad you agree and actually recognize many of the mean spirited things atheists say as going too far. I think it probably holds more weight coming from someone on the inside than me pointing it out from the outside. So thank you for working to maintain civility. I would point out that some so-called Christians go too far, and even legit Christians sometimes go too far. It is hard to maintain that all people are sinners if you aren’t willing to be humble enough to include your own people.
Perhaps your confusion about why Christians are so wrapped up in their beliefs is because you are using a very limited idea of “beliefs”-sort of a set of opinions or information, where as Christianity is a relationship with a person. Christianity isn’t a set of free floating beliefs but are attached to a living person who you are in relation to. Christians live in a relationship closer to God than a human marriage, you can see it is difficult to insult one’s Christian’s beliefs without insulting the person. If you said, “Steve, your wife is a fat stupid worthless whore, but I mean you personally Steve no disrespect.” That would be absurd, of course I would be insulted. If you also said, “Steve marriage is a stupid worthless empty ugly concept that only fools take part in, but again I mean no disrespect to you Steve personally.” Once again, I would be insulted. Again disagree without being disagreeable. Work to build communication lines.
The Gospel is a very insulting message in and of itself. It is God being insulted with our behavior, saying we don’t measure up to the standard of perfection. It is very insulting, and all you said about people deserving death and needing salvation is true, but none the less offensive. Christians need to admit the Gospel message is insulting enough to people’s egos without us heaping condemnation on folks.
“Homosexuality is a perfectly NATURAL trait of sexuality,” is an opinion; it isn’t a truth. Homosexual acts are possible because we have physical bodies, that doesn’t mean we should do it. Polygamy is possible (and also a sin, but none the less practiced in the Bible), just because something is possible or even if animals do it does not make it morally sound or good. If you are merely saying it is physically possible, I would agree, if you are saying it is okay for humans, I would disagree. Rape happens in nature; it is natural. Cannibalism happens in nature, it is natural. Incest happens in nature, it is natural. So if you are merely saying it is a reality in nature, I would say yes. If you are saying whatever is possible is also the standard for human morality; I would strongly disagree.
ReplyDeleteBrett said,”“And it's funny how you demand we practice 'common decency' yet your religion pisses all over gays, women and the rights of others outside of your religion.” Again Christian people make mistakes and have screwed over folks throughout history, but that is not the norm. If you accept their mistakes as being historically factual you would also have to accept that by a far greater percent Christians are responsible for social justice and moral reform. Unless you are selectively blind, then you are just a fool. Remember Christ said to love and die for your enemies, kind of hard to say the Christian faith is all about mistreating those who disagree with you.
Yes It's me Steve. Fatboy, Chris, Godlessandfree whichever you prefer.
ReplyDeleteYou really did go right over the point of the comic and I never once said something wasn't a central belief of atheism. I said "There is no central practice for atheists! Some Atheists may be more than happy to treat others as less than human, and I have the same contempt for those actions no matter who perpetrates them. Which really does go a long way in helping me understand how you truly interpret things.
Another reason I don't believe we will ever make ground in seeing eye to eye. " Christianity is a relationship with a person. Christianity isn’t a set of free floating beliefs but are attached to a living person who you are in relation to."
You honestly believe that you are best buddies with a dead, then supposedly resurrected middle eastern Jew/godly avatar that may or may not have even existed. Who can get you in good with his dad, who is really him, but just in a different form. only though if you believe and accept it all as true.
That is the basis of your faith. And the basis of what the cartoon is really saying is you have the right to assert this BS fairy tale all you want. What you don't have the right to do is expect or demand people take it seriously. As has been said a trillion times before, the burden of proof is on you. I will readily admit that neither side will ever be able to deliver definitive proof of existence or non existence. Thankfully we don't have to, all we have to do is keep amusedly observing the nothing(god)that has been happening for thousands of years and will undoubtedly continue to do nothing for millenia to come.
Homosexuality is a perfectly NATURAL trait of sexuality,” is an opinion; it isn’t a truth.
ReplyDeleteWe'll seeing as it's VERY prevalent in the naturally occurring organisms on this planet, Human morals aside, I would say it's VERY natural and not an opinion.
And who are you again to say that consensual sex between two adults(whoever those people may be)is morally wrong?
Polygamy is sin? Really? Where exactly is your basis for this?
"Rape happens in nature; it is natural. Cannibalism happens in nature, it is natural. Incest happens in nature, it is natural."
Rape of course happens in nature, but is not acceptable because it impinges on the rights of another human. Most people do not want to be raped and it causes physical and emotional damage. You know, the whole empathy thing that keeps most of us from succumbing to our primal urges and doing whatever the hell we feel like.
I might get shit for this but in my opinion if adult, consenting, blood relatives are sexually attracted to each other and want to go for it. As long as they're not procreating(because that's destructive and unfair to the child) that's their business.
Cannibalism...While it's not my cup of tea, if there were a legal ethical way to procure Human flesh for eating I would say let them them eat filet of Bill till they're busting at the ribs. I wouldn't have a problem with it. There are also existing cultures where Cannibalism is an accepted, even required part of life.
I would have to say my world view comes down to incredibly, one of the Church of Satan's main credos. I'm paraphrasing here, but it's to the effect of; Do what you will to get ahead in the world and do what makes you happy, but cause no harm in the process.
It's a big world and not the simple black and white one Christianity would like to paint.
Chris,
ReplyDeleteThank you for your thoughtful response, I actually feel like I’m talking to a person with most of your responses rather than fighting a copy and paste war.
“Do what you will to get ahead in the world and do what makes you happy, but cause no harm in the process.”
That statement on the surface sounds like an enlightened sentiment, but let’s take it apart.
“The cause no harm” clause probably is the fatal flaw; it really eliminates the possibility of attempting to live under this rule, unless “harm” is defined. Physical harm? Mental abuse? Psychological pain? Emotional strain? Economic inequality? Social disenfranchisement? Ecological damage? Ethical erosion? Spiritual damage? Coercion? Verbal abuse? Mean editorials in the paper? Blasphemous t-shirts? My idea of harm? Your idea of harm? Is harming myself okay? Do we allow addicts to harm themselves? Who decides what harm is?
Then obviously people do tend to harm one another, sometimes on purpose, but also by accident; what now? An eye for an eye? Forgiveness? Is there any real possibility of justice under your system?
Have you read a newspaper? Do people tend to in the pursuit of happiness and getting ahead give much thought to if it is harming someone? How would you enforce this policy or is it optional? What if I live around folks who reject your values and instead like the idea of rule by force?
Even with best intentions how would you know how your actions affect everyone else? What if it makes me happy now but has severe future ramifications? You would have to be omnipotent to avoid harming all others.
You can see it isn’t really a rule for life, but it is a nice blanket statement to ease the conscience and rationalize just about any behavior you please. It doesn’t come close to addressing people as we actually are; it is an idealistic pipe dream which bears no resemblance to how people actually function.
You could try to strengthen the statement by attaching it to some form of ethical standard. Tend to give it a whirl?
God says people are designed to worship Him and live interconnected lives of service and love, to be outward focused as well as loving ourselves, to work for the good of all people. God says this is the moral standard; we have free will to live this way or to focus primarily on ourselves and our own concerns. God can make this command because it is a reflection of who He is; He exists and loves in a constant outward direction. God can also make this command because every atom and every millisecond is the product of His creative efforts. Every disobedient disloyal person alive (and that is all of us) is still part of God’s creation and subject to His rule and laws. Many reject God and instead attempt to live lives of inward focused self-centered pursuits. God is also merciful, when we deserve punishment He gives us an opportunity to repent of our evil ways and be forgiven. Christianity is highly realistic in it addresses humans as they really are and recognizes morality and the repercussions. It works because it is realistic for both the law breaker and the law follower.
“The cause no harm” is a blanket statement and I can't define it for anyone but me.
ReplyDeleteOf everything I've written though THAT'S what you choose to address and dissect?
All I hear from you is God says this and God decrees that. To me you might as well be saying Santa Claus says, and it's about as effective. You want an honest, progress making conversation? How about what Steve thinks. How about instead of "God says", we hear why Steve thinks what "God" and the bible says are valid, reasonable statements and commands. If all you can truly do is say this is what "God" and the bible say about a subject and we have no choice but to obey and follow, you've already lost the argument and invalidated your point.
Make one reasoned, logical argument without throwing in "God Says". Just for shit's and giggles tell me why Ohhhh say YOU think Homosexuality is wrong from a completely secular viewpoint. If you don't like that subject pick another, I just want to hear valid reasons for it besides God.
On another note. I finally tried a Cadbury egg. I think I'm still flying high from the sugar buzz. I swear I could feel my body going into a code red, pumping insulin to try and do damage control. I can say I've gotten over the gross factor, but they are definitely not my cup of tea.
ReplyDeleteSorry, been busy.
ReplyDeleteSteve, there are over a thousand animals that seem to have soem sort of homosexual sex. That's animals in the natural world. By it's very definition that menas it's natural. No one forces them to do it. Fatboy's covered the rape thing. Your argument is simply your personal dislike granted 'correctness' because your book says it's OK.
Hear is your problem Steve, since we were at one time beliebers we DO understand why people believe. The thing is we saw it for what it was. Control over us, so we rejected it. It's simple really. And they are a set of free floating beliefs because you pick and choose which one to follow. Stoned and witches lately? There are a WHOLE bunch of them now. Funny how you ignore that but have such a problem with the gay.
Social justice and reform?!?! Are you sure we're reading the same history? And just because someone is a Christian or a Muslim, doesn't mean you can count that toward your goal. It must be done in the NAME of said religion. Most of the time the people forcing change are doing because they want to right a wrong committed by the religious. Take whats going on right now. It's the religious who are trying to again impose there will with contraception BECAUSE of their religion. just because the people who are opposing them might also be religious doesn't garner you a point. Your trying to have your cake and east it to.
Steve, because your god says something is bad or good isn't going to cut it with people like us. We want to know why. And because he said so isn't an answer.
Best,
Brett
Chris,
ReplyDeleteMaybe this is why you don't understand the weakness of your argument. What I think or what you think is mere opinion. It has no moral value for society to recognize as having weight or value. Morals must be attached to something larger than man's opinion. If you say there is nothing to anchor values to, then you really can't assert one set of values has more relevance than another.
If you are truly saying everything you state has no application beyond your headspace, then cool you have no reason to ever disagree with another person on any topic. All opinions have just as much relevance to you.
Perhaps you would like to rethink your position and link your values to something with actual social relevance beyond your own opinions?
Otherwise you can argue as loud and as long as you want, but you have already conceded the fight.
Steve
Brett can you please make up your mind if at one time you did believe or not. If you did believe you would still remember even a little of the fundamentals. Yet you can't even identify Christians beliefs or accurately repeat them when they are given to you.
ReplyDeleteI'll grant you went to church and believed something, but I'm thinking perhaps you bought into an empty form of religious observation with no real power from God; you know the type of empty religion Jesus spent most of His earthly mission condemning and pointing to as worthless ritual.
So on the homosexuality thing, just to be clear. You are saying you support all behaviors that animals do as being proper for people. ALL of them. Or do you reject some? Any? What are your guidelines? You seem to be missing the fact that neither you nor Chris moved the ball one yard down the field by stating animals do it.
Also what do you guys do with the peer reviewed science papers which argue against reading homosexual instincts into animal actions? Do you ignore them? Do only the ones which agree with your opinions count? Are you unaware of them? You do realize this is not universally recognized factual information you are giving, right?
ReplyDeleteYou do understand that you are actually looking at less science and fewer studies and less data than those who disagree with you, correct? Remember your supposed to be the pro-science guys, why so biased?
Thank God for good science.
Steve
Steve,
ReplyDeleteYes, when I was child I believed in Adam and Eve, GOD and Jesus. I lived in fear of the DEVIL as well. You are simply assuming that YOUR way is once again the ONLY CORRECT way to believe in something, poppycock. That I saw though religion early on, means I saw what you refuse to even attempt o think about. Maybe your/any/all religion is wrong.
You believe God created the Universe and everything in it correct? You believe he gave up his only son to redeem humans of 'their' original sin. That that only son was also an aspect of said god. You believe that you have to accept god like a lover or a child into your heart to somehow understand him/ religion. Poppycock. You assume it's full of love and puppies and butterflies because that's what you want it to be, not what it is. It's about control and they have you hook, line and sinker. Anyone who doesn't agree hasn't really 'believed' is simple BS and a way for you to attempt to minister to said person. "You didn't give it a chance." is the same BS. If your religion was so great people wouldn't be leaving it. That you are a card caring cafeteria christian is once again ignored.
What power?!?!? The ability to ignore simple facts? That men and humans are 'loved' by a tyrannical monster? PASS.
I accept whatever 2 consenting adults or older teens want to do. It's not MY position to questions what other like to do for sex. By animals having same sex means it's a natural occurrence. You can't seem to get that into your head. What 2 people do is their business, not YOURS OR MINE. Or a bunch of old codgers who think they 'know' the truth when in fact they are simply repeating what they've controlled into thinking. You assume that since animals 'rape' that this must be OK for humans because it's natural. It is natural, but culture is a big factor in our reproduction and culturally we use sex for more than just reproduction. Harming others is frowned upon but it happens all the time in the animal kingdom, it's natural, but frowned upon (unless you like wrestling.) So because some people frown upon same sex relationships that means they should be outlawed? If that's the case then all boxing, UFC wrestling, football, ect should now be banned because it offends some people even though those people are all consenting adults. Can you not see how childish that is? I draw the line when someone is forced to do ANYTHING against their will. I don't care if they're covering each other in shit as long as it's downwind and behind closed doors.
As for papers, well it depends, just because one paper disagrees don't mean the original finding are invalid it just means that:
A, they are not convinced and require more evidence.
B, they are wrong.
C, the original finding are wrong.
The whole reasons for the papers is so others can repeat and test the research! If more tests come back and show that it's wrong, science will support that. That's how it works and why things change. Science changes to support the evidence, not the other way around.
Evidence please? Cause I think you might have pulled some crazy religious 'science' that isn't right. And just because some older papers are more numerous doesn't invalidate new findings if those new finding are universally accepted. Like homosexuality in animals is now. Your clear lack of understanding of how science works is astounding! Do some learning: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
Next you'll be claiming evolution is wrong because of gorillas!
Steeeeeeeeeeeeeve... We've been through all of this before. I simply asked, just once for YOUR reasoning on why YOU think "Gods" decrees and what the bible say are valid and logical on any subject you please. Once again you sidestepped the question with your mans opinion doesn't matter, God is to be our moral compass BS.I don't know how many more ways I can say "I don't give a a damn what your God or the bible has to say about how I should live my life or my morals." What I AM interested is why YOU think it's valid beyond "because god _____."
ReplyDeleteI honestly don't know how to get a single original thought out of you that hasn't been filtered through millenia of religious doctrine and dogma Steve. I honestly feel like I'm arguing with a magic eight ball that has one answer. "Because GOD hath decreed it...SO SHALL IT BE DONE."
Finally, the ball can't move either way down the field Steve because you have it nailed to the ground with a foot long spike labeled GOD!
Brett,
ReplyDeleteIt isn't one study, it is multiple studies which discredit homosexuality in animals. The main issue is how scientists choose to see animal behavior, there is no direct correlation or understanding of motive; so it is assumed or projected onto animals. It is actually quite funny to read the actual studies, especially the bonobos monkeys-everything is sexual to them.
Chris, I'm not sidestepping the debate. I'm establishing ground rules. I have no interest in endless arguments. Both Religion and Science can be discussed within the higher canopy of REASON. If the rules of Reason are ignored, or one argument is given preferential treatment based on opinion it is a fruitless endeavor.
Hey Brett,
ReplyDeleteJust posting this Onion video which I think is genuinely funny.
The part I think you will like is the satirical article on the pope.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYSG5iNnew0&feature=g-u-u&context=G2f4f1bcFUAAAAAAAAAA
SO site them Steve. Can't because it's NOT true. It's a small percentage but it's still a percentage that prefer same sex relationships. This is actual science not people pretending to do science. If there have been major studies disproving it list them.
ReplyDeleteYep, sex is importnat to our line, so why is it a big deal if we have it with the same gender? Answer is, it's NOT.
And you do sidestep. You do it ALL the time. If gays are SOOOO bad, like your book says, and witches should also be killed, like your book says, why aren't you persecuting witches Steve? Hell they have an official religion now! You pick and choose what you want to follow because of your own biases.
M.O.R.
LOL! Thanks! I like the 50 children getting all the money for education thing as well!
Best,
Brett