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Tuesday, February 24, 2009

Morality test

I found this on Pharyngula today, it's a test to see if your personal morals match up with those of the bible:
Your morality is 0% in line with that of the bible.

Damn you heathen! Your book learnin' has done warped your mind. You shall not be invited next time I sacrifice a goat.

Do You Have Biblical Morals?
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Mine... well they didn't match. In fact I got a 0%! I must be an evil, evil person;) take the test and see how you match up with the Bible.

On another note, I saw Religulous this weekend. Very funny, I quite enjoyed it. I learned a few things I didn't know. The Jesus story is just a modified version of the Horus story. It was mostly just funny, but if you do get it, watch the deleted scenes!

There is also a section on the Muslim religion, basically in a nutshell if you ask a Muslim about the religion they will say it's a religion of peace, but in reality it's a warrior religion. This does make a bit of sense for all the desert religions, as they are some of the first people who send death threats when others disagree with them or when they feel like their religion is being assulted. Doesn't sound very peacful to me;) Now if you'll admit that you've modified your religion to only include the good/peaceful parts then that's cool, but then you can't go and claim 'God Hates Fags' and other unpeacful crap. Please keep in mind they were written by goat hearders. Would you belive a goathearder over say, a scientist who's studied the Earths past or another smart person? I think not...

Best,

Brett

20 comments:

Marcus Hooker said...

I am 8% in line with the bible. It still told me I was a heathen though :)

Marcus Hooker

Brett said...

LOL! I think you'll be a heathen with 90%, they demand perfection!;)

Best,

Bret

Nestor said...

Yea I dont know what they expect...I am in all purposes a good man, I would go to jail instead of selling my daughter but still got a 0%...sheesh...i called the cops instead of offering my daughters...i mean damn man...oh well...I got my DS to keep me on the right track.

christopher said...

8% for me.

Jess said...

I got 0% as well. Brett and I usually think alike, though.

jez said...

if you choose all the first answers it gives you 0. if you choose all of the third answers you get 100%. I wonder what you get for all second answers?...

Brett said...

Jez,

you still get 0% for all the seconds. What does it say about the test if you can figure it out so easily

Best,

Brett

Mark said...

I guess I could be counted as one of those who modified their religion to only take the good peaceful parts. Though it does upset me when I hear or read people trashing religion, I just try not to take it personally, I guess. I certainly don't agree with everything in the church says. My sister went to sunday school the other week, and the speaker there said dancing is bad and leads to sinful acts, yeah, I just kinda laughed. I hate extremist positions whether its about religion or whatever, and this quiz is pretty extreme. I mean, giving up your daughters? Pretty damn ridiculous.

Brett said...

Hi Mark,

You seem to have missed the point of the quiz. It is extreme, it's insane to think that those type of morals would be OK today. Which means morals are ever changing and evolving. Which means that WE make the morals, not god. It means that we humans control out civilization. It means this 'our morals have to come from on high/god' doesn't happen.

I'm just trying to make point I'm not ticked at you for expressing your views or anything:)

So it's OK for the religious to call the non religious heathens, evil, pedophiles and other such things? We who don't believe should just be quiet and ignore them? If that's all the religious did we would. But the religious keep forcing their beliefs on others. Do you know that some Muslims groups are trying to make it so you can't insult their religion anywhere in the world? They are trying to get it passed in the UN. Should we not speak out against this? Should I not point out that religious sex ed doesn't work?

If it bothers you, then don't read about it:) But I've had enough of thinking the more moderate religious will police the radicals, they don't, they sit back and let the crazies run things. Did you know that a bunch of states are trying to get creation science taught in schools under this 'Academic Freedom' crap? Somebody has to take a stand for the rests of us who don't believe (there are more non believers in the US than there are African Americans or Jews.) Someone has to speak up for reason and against superstition and ignorance. If the part time religious won't, we non believers will. We've tried to be nice but the religious get offended at every little thing and then basically stick their fingers in their ears. So to get our point across we've had to become more vocal. Do you know that Christians got upset at the President even mentioning non-believers? They think we're not American because we don't believe? Does that sound like people you want running things? No me.

We'd be happy, even thrilled to leave you alone if you'd keep religion out of the government. Like it' supposed to be.

Best,

Brett

Mark said...

Hey Brett, let me ask you this, I haven't done as much research on this as you but when religious wackos try and get that creation science stuff passed. How successful are they? And did anything really happen when they got upset that the pres mentioned non believers? If not, then who cares? Is it really reasonable to expect moderate religious people to police the crazies? Who polices athiests when they put up a sign at Christmas saying God doesn't exist and everything Christians believe is superstition and fear mongering? And is it reasonable to focus only on the negative aspects of religion, when there are a lot of people who find it and it turns their lives around for the better, as illogical and irrational that may be to you.

There are always going to be people who take what they believe to ridiculous levels, it's unavoidable. Happens in politics, sports, and unfortunately religion, and when the crazies start popping up, just see them for what they are; and try not to lump moderates with them. Because that hurts our feelings Brett, that hurts. Lol :P

All they do when they start flapping their gums in that "repent sinners" kind of way, is turn more people off to religion, so they're doing more damage to their cause than you might think.

Ps. This wall of text is coming off more aggressive than I intended, at least to me. :). Peace out.

Brett said...

Mark,
I'm not trying to be nasty just trying to answer your questions, please don't take this as a personal attack:)

Well let's see. they had to go to trial in Dover PA to get the creationist stuff taken out of the local school systems. There are at least 5 or 6 (there might be as many as 12 but I can't quite remember)state bills this year to teach creationism in schools. So far they've managed to keep it out but it's not easy and it costs money, both private and tax payer.

The crazies REPRESENT you and your religion, because you say nothing in public to distance yourselves from them. Because the moderates say nothing we have to. Is it fair that we who don't believe are forced to police the crazy few who go over the top because you don't want to? Wouldn't it just be easier for everyone if religion was completely OUT of the government? That's ALL we ask.:)

The signs are the Christians own fault, and while I do think they went a bit far at x-mas, they were simply reacting to the Christians forcing the issue by taking the state to court to force them to allow nativity scenes on government property. It's not like there aren't enough stable scenes at churches on private property in front of peoples homes, on the TV. How you felt about that sign is how I feel when forced to listen or see signs damning me to hell everywhere I go. Feels great doesn't it;) How does it feel to have another views forced upon you? It kinda sucks. And the signs didn't specify Christians, just religion, ALL religion.

Best,

Brett

Anonymous said...

Actually the test is a classic example of misuse of Bible passages and morals.

For instance the turning over of daughters for rape is not shown to be a morally correct response in the Genesis 19 story. Somethings people do in the Bible are recorded to show what not to do or the lack of faith people show.

-Steve

Brett said...

Steve,

Well that's how YOUR group pf Christians interpret that story, it is not how it is usually interpreted. Didn't god spare Lott, and his daughters for this act? Didn't he punish 2 cities for this?

The whole point is your splinter group has decided to read it one way, not the literal way. You have changed the meaning, you have controlled them. You usually go the peace route which is cool with me, but I know you aren't a literalist and have yet to kill either of your kids (hell I remember the candy incident);) So your morals are different and have changed from those of the bible. All good things since you would be sitting in prison if you did follow these select morals literally.:)

Best,

Brett

Le Rochelle said...

ok 0% and thank well... myself! I personally believe (and I am not starting a discussion on this matter) that the bible is a very good story, boring, but inherently a good story, nothing more. In today's age and with the variety we have going on, the bible's versions of discipline and morals are behind what we have today. for example, in the King James version it says "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" when the US government has set up religious programs for Wiccans and pagan military personnel. I am glad for it. But some one really needs to edit the Bible! If we took an exacto blade and started cutting out the verses that are against this days moralities, all we would be left with is confetti I think. Ok... Don't want to go overboard here... whups.. just did XD K.. Byee ^.^

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't say I'm part of a splinter group. If you check out any reputable Bible scholar you will see my views line up with the historical interpetation which has been held for over 2000 years. I can't take credit for originating it.

As for stoning disobedient children I encourage you to research the difference between cultural Jewish specific mandates and moral law. There is no one account of a Jewish parent stoning their child in accordance with this law. Not one. It was given so Jewish parents would raise their children in such a way as this would never happen. We aren't talking about swiping a bunch of candy either, the corretct interpatation is if my child grows up to be a criminal I'm responsible for carrying out judgement against my own offspring.

Steve

Brett said...

Hi Steve,

If you're not following the bible exactly you're a splinter group. There are LOTS of splinter groups, it wasn't ment to be offensive or anything just stating the obvious.

But I know you don't take it all too seriously, there is grey area an wiggle room. So you as a group have modified your morals. That's the whole point. Morals are ever changing and mutating to fit the culture. (just because we have no current examples doesn't mean we don't have any. Plus the majority of Jews see the tora as more of a guide book than fact. I think some of that stuff is just ment to scare people into obeying.) And while we might not have any from the Jewish world (that we know of, you can't say not one because you don't have all the facts and never will in 4000 years I'm sure there were some crazy Jewish people too;)) we have lots from the Christian and Muslim world.

Well Steve, see you've made my point. You've read the bible and changed it from it's original text. Your interpreting it one way while someone else does it another way. Changing the meaning to fit YOUR need.

You can't argue that the morals of old an the morals of today are the same, and that they haven't changed. If morals came from on high they would be set, programed into us, not capable of change, but they do and they change fast.

Best,

Brett

Brett said...

Hi Le Rochelle,

I agree:) But I wouldn't say it's a good book. A good book I could read, I've tried twice and just could get through it. And I do agree an editor and maybe an update are really needed:)

Best,

Brett

Marcus Hooker said...

I watched Religulous last night. I thought it was hysterical, very funny movie, although all of those religious nuts (which was practically everyone in the movie) drive me crazy. Especially the Mormons, they have one of the most ridiculous of all religions ever. I love how the Mormons said if a black person is holy enough, god with turn their skin white, and then they show Michael Jackson over the years.

Anonymous said...

Actually Brett you've misunderstood my statement. I support the original understanding of the passage. I agree some misunderstand what certain areas of the Bible say. But thanks to historical scholarship we can identify with some accuracy what the original intent was. I'm the guy agreeing with the original intent of the author. A splinter view would be someone who supports a non-historical interpatation, such as the originator of the morality test you took. There are lots of reputable Hebrewic resources if you are interested at looking at historical facts rather than modern silliness.

-Steve

Brett said...

Steve,

Well then you've basically proven my point. You believe in the literal interpretation but do not follow it as our morals have changed. By your own reasoning you are sinning by not following the 'word of god.' If morals are flexible and adaptable, they change as the culture changes, then they are created by man.

Best,

Brett