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Brett
Monday, May 28, 2012
This... rather late... Sunday, Dinojesus and some idiot...
Thanks for this Art!
It's almost painful to watch as her mind tries to cope with simple facts... Do you see now why religion keeps people ignorant? Religion is under attack, and it's not another group, it's logic and reason.
Wait...I thought Jesus rode into Jerusalem on a raptor? Are you telling Ken Ham has been bullshiting me all this time? Man, I trusted that guy, and this whole time it's been lies.
As for the video, It was uncomfortable to even watch. Listening to her excuses, watching her squirm and finally just giving up and saying "you know what? Fuck it,! Ya all the gays SHOULD be put behind electric fences and left to die and blasphemers should be put to death. I really hope she's the one to throw the first stone.
Even with the lady unable to adequately explain her position Anderson Cooper still feels the need to twist her words. Everyone comes out looking bad in that video.
It sounds like the same situation from the Bible in John 8 and the lady caught in adultery. Religious folks tend to forget they were saved by Grace and therefore should show grace to those still caught in sin.
I can see why that video would get your ire up, it ticks me off too.
I was going to stop but you know what Steve? You never answer this question...
WHY do you IGNORE other rules in the bible, yet you cling so desperately to this one? WHY? WHY!?!
How can you claim the moral high ground on all these things yet your morals are reprehensible to me and others? Its not full of God love or anyone/thing else's, it's full of hate. How can you not see that? Your religions morals are LESS than a regular persons... I'm at a complete loss for how any sane person can think the way you do.
So answer the question Steve instead of sidestepping it.
Why do you keep using the bible to back your views on homosexuals, when you no longer use it to support beating your children, killing blasphemers or eating shell fish?
the above link says it all with plenty of the corresponding support materials.
I'm not a big fan of cutting and pasting links but this article really is an excellent explanation.
This is the same basic argument I've shared a number of times. I can reword it or elaborate, but really that article says most of what I would say.
I would probably only add that the Hebrew word translated as "abomination" in the cases of shellfish {Lev. 11:10} is še•qeṣ which has to do mainly with ceremonially unclean food.
I have a 2000 word longer explanation which won't fit in the comments section. When it is cleaned up a bit I'll send it off to Brett who may post it if he chooses.
to be fair-the linked article deals mainly with the shellfish issue in particular, if after reading it you still have questions on the other topics let me know.
Also what verses are you talking about in particular for use it to support beating your children, killing blasphemers?
Steve, Come on man, you can get all tone-ish if you want. Honestly though it seems to be the only way to get you to directly answer the question. It is really you that it doesn't reflect well on, because at this point you are obviously avoiding a question you do not want to answer because there's no way around it being closed minded and bigoted.
The point Brett is trying to make is that there is no good answer besides you CHOOSE to follow some rules and some you don't. And if you as a human are choosing which parts of the bible you'll obey and adhere to, then that makes the bible much, much less than perfect word of God, and in fact points it out as a flawed, antiquated, text, conceived of and written by man and man alone.
THAT is why you won't answer the question Steve, and everyone here knows that.
I have deleted 2. I am completely serious, if you can't answer a simple question then there is no point putting up with anymore nonsense from you.
My tone has nothing to do with it, you have dodged this question for YEARS. All you have to answer is why you follow some rules and ignore others. That's all.
You're the one sidestepping this question and trying to make me out as the bad guy. I'm just trying to get you to answer a simple question.
Fatboy is exactly right and because you won't answer, you have revealed your entire position. Religion of love indeed.
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Wait...I thought Jesus rode into Jerusalem on a raptor? Are you telling Ken Ham has been bullshiting me all this time? Man, I trusted that guy, and this whole time it's been lies.
As for the video, It was uncomfortable to even watch. Listening to her excuses, watching her squirm and finally just giving up and saying "you know what? Fuck it,! Ya all the gays SHOULD be put behind electric fences and left to die and blasphemers should be put to death.
I really hope she's the one to throw the first stone.
Even with the lady unable to adequately explain her position Anderson Cooper still feels the need to twist her words. Everyone comes out looking bad in that video.
It sounds like the same situation from the Bible in John 8 and the lady caught in adultery. Religious folks tend to forget they were saved by Grace and therefore should show grace to those still caught in sin.
I can see why that video would get your ire up, it ticks me off too.
Steve
I was going to stop but you know what Steve? You never answer this question...
WHY do you IGNORE other rules in the bible, yet you cling so desperately to this one? WHY? WHY!?!
How can you claim the moral high ground on all these things yet your morals are reprehensible to me and others? Its not full of God love or anyone/thing else's, it's full of hate. How can you not see that? Your religions morals are LESS than a regular persons... I'm at a complete loss for how any sane person can think the way you do.
So answer the question Steve instead of sidestepping it.
Brett
Brett I want to answer the right question. Please ask it directly. I'll do my best.
Steve
Steve,
Why do you keep using the bible to back your views on homosexuals, when you no longer use it to support beating your children, killing blasphemers or eating shell fish?
You follow SOME of the rules but ignore others.
Brett
http://4simpsons.wordpress.com/2007/11/24/favorite-dish-of-liberal-theologians-skeptics-shellfish/
the above link says it all with plenty of the corresponding support materials.
I'm not a big fan of cutting and pasting links but this article really is an excellent explanation.
This is the same basic argument I've shared a number of times. I can reword it or elaborate, but really that article says most of what I would say.
I would probably only add that the Hebrew word translated as "abomination" in the cases of shellfish {Lev. 11:10} is še•qeṣ which has to do mainly with ceremonially unclean food.
I have a 2000 word longer explanation which won't fit in the comments section. When it is cleaned up a bit I'll send it off to Brett who may post it if he chooses.
to be fair-the linked article deals mainly with the shellfish issue in particular, if after reading it you still have questions on the other topics let me know.
Also what verses are you talking about in particular for use it to support beating your children, killing blasphemers?
Steve,
Come on man, you can get all tone-ish if you want. Honestly though
it seems to be the only way to get you to directly answer the question.
It is really you that it doesn't reflect well on, because at this point you are obviously avoiding a question you do not want to answer because there's no way around it being closed minded and bigoted.
The point Brett is trying to make is that there is no good answer besides you CHOOSE to follow some rules and some you don't. And if you as a human are choosing which parts of the bible you'll obey and adhere to, then that makes the bible much, much less than perfect word of God, and in fact points it out as a flawed, antiquated, text, conceived of and written by man and man alone.
THAT is why you won't answer the question Steve, and everyone here knows that.
Steve,
I have deleted 2. I am completely serious, if you can't answer a simple question then there is no point putting up with anymore nonsense from you.
My tone has nothing to do with it, you have dodged this question for YEARS. All you have to answer is why you follow some rules and ignore others. That's all.
You're the one sidestepping this question and trying to make me out as the bad guy. I'm just trying to get you to answer a simple question.
Fatboy is exactly right and because you won't answer, you have revealed your entire position. Religion of love indeed.
Best,
Brett
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